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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link="#0563C1" vlink="#954F72"><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Well, there will always be room on the next line, it is blank at that moment.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>That said, maybe you rule better stated is that you do not want words shorter than “X” characters to be broken.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Let’s say that is 8 (control is 7) … so splitting this between push and remain counts like this:<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white;text-autospace:none'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:black;background:white;mso-highlight:white'> </span><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:#000096;background:white;mso-highlight:white'><fo:flow</span><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:#F5844C;background:white;mso-highlight:white'> flow-name</span><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:#FF8040;background:white;mso-highlight:white'>=</span><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:#993300;background:white;mso-highlight:white'>"xsl-region-body"</span><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:#000096;background:white;mso-highlight:white'>></span><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:black;background:white;mso-highlight:white'><br> </span><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:#000096;background:white;mso-highlight:white'><fo:block-container</span><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:#F5844C;background:white;mso-highlight:white'> width</span><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:#FF8040;background:white;mso-highlight:white'>=</span><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:#993300;background:white;mso-highlight:white'>"0.65in"</span><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:#F5844C;background:white;mso-highlight:white'> hyphenate</span><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:#FF8040;background:white;mso-highlight:white'>=</span><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:#993300;background:white;mso-highlight:white'>"true"</span><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:#F5844C;background:white;mso-highlight:white'> hyphenation-push-character-count</span><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:#FF8040;background:white;mso-highlight:white'>=</span><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:#993300;background:white;mso-highlight:white'>"4"</span><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:#F5844C;background:white;mso-highlight:white'> hyphenation-remain-character-count</span><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:#FF8040;background:white;mso-highlight:white'>=</span><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:#993300;background:white;mso-highlight:white'>"4"</span><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:#000096;background:white;mso-highlight:white'>></span><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:black;background:white;mso-highlight:white'><br> </span><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:#000096;background:white;mso-highlight:white'><fo:block></span><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:black;background:white;mso-highlight:white'>Hyper-awareness</span><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:#000096;background:white;mso-highlight:white'></fo:block></span><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:black;background:white;mso-highlight:white'><br> </span><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:#000096;background:white;mso-highlight:white'><fo:block></span><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:black;background:white;mso-highlight:white'>Flow control</span><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:#000096;background:white;mso-highlight:white'></fo:block></span><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:black;background:white;mso-highlight:white'><br> </span><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:#000096;background:white;mso-highlight:white'></fo:block-container></span><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:black;background:white;mso-highlight:white'><br> </span><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:#000096;background:white;mso-highlight:white'></fo:flow></span><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;background:white;mso-highlight:white'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Yields this:<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><img width=317 height=205 id="Picture_x0020_1" src="cid:image004.png@01D2B1F0.E573E1D0"><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Kevin Brown<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>RenderX<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b>From:</b> Darren Munt [mailto:darrenm@ardex.com.au] <br><b>Sent:</b> Sunday, April 09, 2017 9:08 PM<br><b>To:</b> kevin@renderx.com<br><b>Subject:</b> RE: [xep-support] Re: Hyphenation issue in table<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-AU style='color:#1F497D'>I’ve tried both actually. If I enter the text via my keyboard, then I get 002D. Or I can use the entity ‐. Neither gives me a word break at the hyphen.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><a name="_MailEndCompose"></a><span lang=EN-AU style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b>From:</b> Kevin Brown [<a href="mailto:kevin@renderx.com">mailto:kevin@renderx.com</a>] <br><b>Sent:</b> Monday, 10 April 2017 1:27 PM<br><b>To:</b> Darren Munt <<a href="mailto:darrenm@ardex.com.au">darrenm@ardex.com.au</a>><br><b>Subject:</b> RE: [xep-support] Re: Hyphenation issue in table<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-AU><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Are the u+2010 characters in your data? Or u+002D?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b>From:</b> Darren Munt [<a href="mailto:darrenm@ardex.com.au">mailto:darrenm@ardex.com.au</a>] <br><b>Sent:</b> Sunday, April 09, 2017 8:07 PM<br><b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:kevin@renderx.com">kevin@renderx.com</a><br><b>Subject:</b> RE: [xep-support] Re: Hyphenation issue in table<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-AU style='color:#1F497D'>The only thing I disagree on is that it should also allow line-breaking on a hard hyphen (</span><span lang=EN-AU style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Courier New";color:#222222;background:white'>U+2010</span><span lang=EN-AU style='color:#1F497D'>), which it apparently does not. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-AU style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-AU style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-AU style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-AU style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b>From:</b> Kevin Brown [<a href="mailto:kevin@renderx.com">mailto:kevin@renderx.com</a>] <br><b>Sent:</b> Monday, 10 April 2017 12:57 PM<br><b>To:</b> Darren Munt <<a href="mailto:darrenm@ardex.com.au">darrenm@ardex.com.au</a>><br><b>Subject:</b> RE: [xep-support] Re: Hyphenation issue in table<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-AU><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo2'><![if !supportLists]><span style='color:#1F497D'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>1)<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='color:#1F497D'>Read here for more information: <a href="http://www.renderx.com/reference.html#Linguistic_LineBreaking">http://www.renderx.com/reference.html#Linguistic_LineBreaking</a><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo2'><![if !supportLists]><span style='color:#1F497D'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>2)<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='color:#1F497D'>As a go-forward formatter, we don’t look behind nor forward unless we have to (for performance reasons). Making a decision whether we should put the whole part of a word on the next line or hyphenate it on the current line would require that … because the word may be supercalifragilisticexpialidocious and require more than two lines or three … or it may be a URL that requires 10 lines. There is no guessing at that.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraph><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Kevin<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b>From:</b> Darren Munt [<a href="mailto:darrenm@ardex.com.au">mailto:darrenm@ardex.com.au</a>] <br><b>Sent:</b> Sunday, April 09, 2017 7:39 PM<br><b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:kevin@renderx.com">kevin@renderx.com</a><br><b>Subject:</b> RE: [xep-support] Re: Hyphenation issue in table<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-AU style='color:#1F497D'>OK, I thought I had made that clear but obviously not. The word is hyphenated in the original text: hyper-awareness. With hyphenation off, RenderX does not break on the hyphen, which as far as I am concerned is unexpected behaviour. Instead it chooses to cram it all together so that it is illegible.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-AU style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-AU style='color:#1F497D'>I believe that it is reasonable for a normal hyphen to be considered a valid word boundary and therefore a candidate for line breaking. The reason for the existence of the non-breaking hyphen </span><span lang=EN-AU style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Courier New";color:#222222;background:white'>U+2011</span><span lang=EN-AU style='color:#1F497D'> is so that you can control the situation you refer to below in your +/- currency example.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-AU style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-AU style='color:#1F497D'>When you do switch hyphenation on, it does break at the hyphen but it also breaks words unnecessarily. Again this is unexpected behaviour from my point of view, since the engine seems capable of formatting “Flow control” over two lines without hyphenation switched on. I understand why it is doing it – because it is finding the soft hyphen in the middle of “control” – but choosing to break there rather than the actual space between the words is not intuitive. I know these things are difficult.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-AU style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-AU style='color:#1F497D'>We can’t insert zero-width breaking spaces to trick RenderX into breaking there because the document is translated into many languages by other parties and it would not be practical to handle it that way. I found that recommendation of yours when searching for a solution but it is not satisfactory. So I will have to work out something else. I guess I will have to do a search and replace on hyphens in my code before transforming it.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-AU style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b>From:</b> Kevin Brown [<a href="mailto:kevin@renderx.com">mailto:kevin@renderx.com</a>] <br><b>Sent:</b> Monday, 10 April 2017 12:20 PM<br><b>To:</b> Darren Munt <<a href="mailto:darrenm@ardex.com.au">darrenm@ardex.com.au</a>>; 'RenderX Community Support List' <<a href="mailto:xep-support@renderx.com">xep-support@renderx.com</a>><br><b>Subject:</b> RE: [xep-support] Re: Hyphenation issue in table<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-AU><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Darren:<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Does you content have “Hyperawaremess” or “Hyper-awareness” in it? We do not see your content when you post snippets of output.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>If you are saying it has the latter then you need to insert a zero-width breaking space as that is not a natural breaking place.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Otherwise you would get this:<br><br>You owe –<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>$25,000 to<br>your account.<br><br>Which would be hard to determine is you owe -$25,000 or $25,000<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Kevin<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b>From:</b> Darren Munt [<a href="mailto:darrenm@ardex.com.au">mailto:darrenm@ardex.com.au</a>] <br><b>Sent:</b> Sunday, April 09, 2017 7:03 PM<br><b>To:</b> RenderX Community Support List <<a href="mailto:xep-support@renderx.com">xep-support@renderx.com</a>>; <a href="mailto:kevin@renderx.com">kevin@renderx.com</a><br><b>Subject:</b> RE: [xep-support] Re: Hyphenation issue in table<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-AU style='color:#1F497D'>In fact, why doesn’t it just break on the hyphen without switching hyphenation on in the first place? It’s not a non-breaking hyphen. Microsoft Word handles it OK:<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-AU style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-AU><img border=0 width=139 height=161 id="_x0000_i1025" src="cid:image005.png@01D2B1F0.E573E1D0"><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-AU style='color:#1F497D'>This is the behaviour I’m after. Can I make XEP do that?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-AU style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-AU style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b>From:</b> Xep-support [<a href="mailto:xep-support-bounces@renderx.com">mailto:xep-support-bounces@renderx.com</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Darren Munt<br><b>Sent:</b> Monday, 10 April 2017 11:50 AM<br><b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:kevin@renderx.com">kevin@renderx.com</a>; RenderX Community Support List <<a href="mailto:xep-support@renderx.com">xep-support@renderx.com</a>><br><b>Subject:</b> [xep-support] Re: Hyphenation issue in table<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-AU><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-AU style='color:#1F497D'>Thanks Kevin that is really helpful. Are you having a bad day?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-AU style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-AU style='color:#1F497D'>Why does it hyphenate “control”? There is no need for it to do so. It fits perfectly well with hyphenation off.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-AU style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-AU style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-AU style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-AU style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b>From:</b> Xep-support [<a href="mailto:xep-support-bounces@renderx.com">mailto:xep-support-bounces@renderx.com</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Kevin Brown<br><b>Sent:</b> Monday, 10 April 2017 11:45 AM<br><b>To:</b> 'RenderX Community Support List' <<a href="mailto:xep-support@renderx.com">xep-support@renderx.com</a>><br><b>Subject:</b> [xep-support] Re: Hyphenation issue in table<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-AU><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Invent you own hyphenation dictionary with the special occurrences of your words that you do not want hyphenated.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>It is not like the software can guess what you want hyphenated and not.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Kevin Brown<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Executive Vice President, Sales & Marketing RenderX, Inc.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>(650) 327-1000 Direct<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>(650) 328-8008 Fax<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>(925) 395-1772 Mobile<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>skype:kbrown01<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><a href="mailto:kevin@renderx.com">kevin@renderx.com</a><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><a href="mailto:sales@renderx.com">sales@renderx.com</a><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><a href="http://www.renderx.com/">http://www.renderx.com</a> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b>From:</b> Xep-support [<a href="mailto:xep-support-bounces@renderx.com">mailto:xep-support-bounces@renderx.com</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Darren Munt<br><b>Sent:</b> Sunday, April 09, 2017 6:35 PM<br><b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:xep-support@renderx.com">xep-support@renderx.com</a><br><b>Subject:</b> [xep-support] Hyphenation issue in table<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-AU>I have some text that contains hyphenated words. With the hyphenate attribute set to ‘false’, words with hyphens will not break, resulting in the following:<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-AU><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-AU><img border=0 width=102 height=260 id="_x0000_i1026" src="cid:image006.png@01D2B1F0.E573E1D0"><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-AU><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-AU>If I set it to true, then I get unnecessary hyphenation:<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-AU><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-AU><img border=0 width=114 height=258 id="_x0000_i1027" src="cid:image007.png@01D2B1F0.E573E1D0"><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-AU><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-AU>Is there a mode where I can get it to break on a hyphen but not otherwise? I actually don’t understand why it is breaking the word ‘control’ when there is space for it on the next line?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-AU><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div></body></html>