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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-AU link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Kevin,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Thanks for the reply. The actual page sequence we are after as you flip through the book in the English-speaking direction would be:<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>1 Eng<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>2 Eng<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>3 Eng<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>4 Eng<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>4 Ara<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>3 Ara<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>2 Ara<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>1 Ara<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>For printing, the booklet runs to around 100 pages and they have used a multiple-signature glue binding in the past. I think therefore that we just give them the file with pages in the correct sequence and then they would use some prepress tool to order them for printing. I think the XEP intermediate format might be the right solution. Will check out the example you posted below. The only possible issue is that they may want editable PDF text, not page images but I will confirm that.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Cheers,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Darren<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Xep-support [mailto:xep-support-bounces@renderx.com] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Kevin Brown<br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, 1 September 2015 4:22 AM<br><b>To:</b> kevin@renderx.com; 'RenderX Community Support List'<br><b>Subject:</b> [xep-support] Re: Reversing order of page rendering<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='color:#1F497D'>Oh, and I would note that what you maybe want is bookfolding for saddlestitch … then it would be (given the eight page example below:<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='color:#1F497D'>1 Eng – 4 Ara <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='color:#1F497D'>3 Ara – 2 Eng<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='color:#1F497D'>3 Eng – 2 Ara<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='color:#1F497D'>1 Ara – 4 Eng<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='color:#1F497D'>Is that one it? Those are already done and have been posted before. I will dig those out if that is the case.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='color:#1F497D'>Kevin<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US> Xep-support [<a href="mailto:xep-support-bounces@renderx.com">mailto:xep-support-bounces@renderx.com</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Kevin Brown<br><b>Sent:</b> Monday, August 31, 2015 11:18 AM<br><b>To:</b> 'RenderX Community Support List' <<a href="mailto:xep-support@renderx.com">xep-support@renderx.com</a>><br><b>Subject:</b> [xep-support] Re: Reversing order of page rendering<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='color:#1F497D'>Darren:<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='color:#1F497D'>I have two solutions for you. First let’s confirm what you want:<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='color:#1F497D'>I assume your request is like this:<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='color:#1F497D'>You have a book to produce, let’s say it turns out to be 4 pages for each language. You wold create an FO that would produce something like this:<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='color:#1F497D'>1 English<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='color:#1F497D'>2 English<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='color:#1F497D'>3 English<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='color:#1F497D'>4 English<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='color:#1F497D'>1 Arabic<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='color:#1F497D'>2 Arabic<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='color:#1F497D'>3 Arabic<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='color:#1F497D'>4 Arabic<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='color:#1F497D'>And what you want is a new output like this:<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='color:#1F497D'>1 English + 1 Arabic<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='color:#1F497D'>2 English + 2 Arabic<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='color:#1F497D'>3 English + 3 Arabic<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='color:#1F497D'>4 English + 4 Arabic<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='color:#1F497D'>Is this correct?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='color:#1F497D'>Possible Solutions:<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='color:#1F497D'>#1: A simple template that uses the individual PDFs and creates the desired output. IN this you would need to create a simple XML file that would identify each document, the total pages in each and the output page width and height. It would then create “pages” by using the “rx:pdf-page” extension to take a page from each and put them into a new document.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='color:#1F497D'>#2 Pure manipulation of the Intermediate Format. IN this you would format to XEP format and apply an XSL to it to reorder things a bit. Totally similar to <a href="http://www.renderx.com/cooltools.html">http://www.renderx.com/cooltools.html</a> “N-up” example but needs to be changed to your specification (and probably remove the scaling and put pages in actual size side by side.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='color:#1F497D'>Once you confirm if the above is correct, we can post (both) solutions here.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='color:#1F497D'>Kevin Brown<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='color:#1F497D'>Executive Vice President, Sales & Marketing RenderX, Inc.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='color:#1F497D'>(650) 327-1000 Direct<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='color:#1F497D'>(650) 328-8008 Fax<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='color:#1F497D'>(925) 395-1772 Mobile<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='color:#1F497D'>skype:kbrown01<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='color:#1F497D'><a href="mailto:kevin@renderx.com"><span style='color:#0563C1'>kevin@renderx.com</span></a><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='color:#1F497D'><a href="mailto:sales@renderx.com"><span style='color:#0563C1'>sales@renderx.com</span></a><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='color:#1F497D'><a href="http://www.renderx.com/"><span style='color:#0563C1'>http://www.renderx.com</span></a> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US> Xep-support [<a href="mailto:xep-support-bounces@renderx.com">mailto:xep-support-bounces@renderx.com</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Darren Munt<br><b>Sent:</b> Monday, August 31, 2015 1:46 AM<br><b>To:</b> 'xep-support@renderx.com' <<a href="mailto:xep-support@renderx.com">xep-support@renderx.com</a>><br><b>Subject:</b> [xep-support] Reversing order of page rendering<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal>We have a document that is basically the same set of pages in both English and Arabic. The printed version of the document has the English in the left half of the booklet and Arabic in the right. The English pages run left to right, the Arabic run right to left. They meet in the middle.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>At the moment I am producing these with two separate FO files providing two PDFs. These would need to be ‘stitched’ together in pre-press to provide a set of pages in the correct order.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Is there a way in RenderX to specify one ‘section’ of an FO file be rendered back to front, so last page first etc? The idea being that I could produce this as one file but have the Arabic section rendered in reverse page order, so that it’s last page appears first after the last English page, and then on through its pages with the first page appearing at the end of the PDF.<o:p></o:p></p></div></body></html>