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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>By *<b>can</b>* I meant that I do not believe the specification says *<b>must be</b>*, it clearly says things like “commonly used.”<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>As stated in the spec, there are two ways one can format documents in Korean:<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>a)<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>space/punctuation-based line ending rules only or <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>b)<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>using space/punctuation and syllable-breaking rules<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>It makes no indication that either is wrong. It is a preference (not mandatory).<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>RenderX likely chooses “b” because “b” has been acceptable in all cases (at least you are first to report it) and “a” would most certainly be incorrect for justified text.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>I do not believe you can change this behavior in any way, this is core to the engine itself. And in fact, even if one could change it, it would be required to change it line by line, para/table-cell entry by another as if you have justified text anywhere, you would need to use “b”. Now, perhaps this is because your translators are the ones pointing this out.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>See <a href="http://nojeokhill.koreanconsulting.com/2013/05/korean-translation-tip-cardinal-rules-of-korean-language-layout.html">http://nojeokhill.koreanconsulting.com/2013/05/korean-translation-tip-cardinal-rules-of-korean-language-layout.html</a><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Note the two rules they have and they do not make a distinction whether one or the other is correct. They merely tell you that if you have “b”, do not use ragged right layout, use justified text. Otherwise use “a”. They certainly do not state “b” is wrong.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Kevin<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Daniel Boughton [mailto:daniel.r.boughton@rrd.com] <br><b>Sent:</b> Monday, August 11, 2014 1:03 PM<br><b>To:</b> Kevin Brown; RenderX Community Support List<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [xep-support] Re: Line breaking rules for Korean.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>Kevin:<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Just wondering what you meant by "<span style='font-size:11.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Korean *<b>can</b>* be set with only breaks at spaces.</span>" Is that something that is currently available or something that could be implemented in a future release?<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Mon, Aug 11, 2014 at 2:22 PM, Kevin Brown <<a href="mailto:kevin@renderx.com" target="_blank">kevin@renderx.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>I think there are two schools/options and the use of the words “only valid” is … well … not valid.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Korean *<b>can</b>* be set with only breaks at spaces. However, this should be (and never is) used with justification as it would lead to terrible results.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>I believe it is optional to allow breaking only at spaces, not “only valid”.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>You would note text like this in the Unicode Line Breaking standard … note the use of “commonly” and not the use of “mandatory”:</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>“</span>Korean makes use of both styles of line break. When Korean text is justified, the second style is commonly used, even for interspersed Latin letters. But when ragged margins are used, the Western style (relying on spaces) is commonly used instead, even for ideographs.”<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>At any rate, I have forwarded the request into our team for additional comments.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Consolas;color:#1F497D'>Kevin Brown</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Consolas;color:#1F497D'>Executive Vice President, Sales & Marketing RenderX, Inc.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Consolas;color:#1F497D'><a href="tel:%28650%29%20327-1000" target="_blank">(650) 327-1000</a> Direct</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Consolas;color:#1F497D'><a href="tel:%28650%29%20328-8008" target="_blank">(650) 328-8008</a> Fax</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Consolas;color:#1F497D'><a href="tel:%28925%29%20395-1772" target="_blank">(925) 395-1772</a> Mobile</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Consolas;color:#1F497D'>skype:kbrown01</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Consolas;color:#1F497D'><a href="mailto:kevin@renderx.com" target="_blank">kevin@renderx.com</a></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Consolas;color:#1F497D'><a href="mailto:sales@renderx.com" target="_blank">sales@renderx.com</a></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Consolas;color:#1F497D'><a href="http://www.renderx.com" target="_blank">http://www.renderx.com</a> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Xep-support [mailto:<a href="mailto:xep-support-bounces@renderx.com" target="_blank">xep-support-bounces@renderx.com</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Simcha Gralla<br><b>Sent:</b> Monday, August 11, 2014 12:18 PM</span><o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><br><b>To:</b> RenderX Community Support List<o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><b>Subject:</b> [xep-support] Re: Line breaking rules for Korean.<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><p><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>That doesn't sound like the rules as I learned them. Most Korean documents can break between all Hangul characters with the exception that there are characters defined to not be left alone at the start or end of the line. Among other places describing this, there's </span><a href="http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/goglobal/bb688158.aspx#EED" target="_blank"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/goglobal/bb688158.aspx#EED</span></a><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:.5in'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Simcha Gralla<br>IBM Authoring Tools development<br>Brookfield, CT</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><br><tt><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>Daniel Boughton <<a href="mailto:daniel.r.boughton@rrd.com" target="_blank">daniel.r.boughton@rrd.com</a>> wrote on 2014-08-11 14:59:44:</span></tt><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'><br><br><tt>> From: Daniel Boughton <<a href="mailto:daniel.r.boughton@rrd.com" target="_blank">daniel.r.boughton@rrd.com</a>></tt></span><br><tt><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>> To: RenderX Community Support List <<a href="mailto:xep-support@renderx.com" target="_blank">xep-support@renderx.com</a>></span></tt><br><tt><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>> Date: 2014-08-11 15:00</span></tt><br><tt><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>> Subject: [xep-support] Line breaking rules for Korean.</span></tt><br><tt><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>> Sent by: "Xep-support" <<a href="mailto:xep-support-bounces@renderx.com" target="_blank">xep-support-bounces@renderx.com</a>></span></tt><br><tt><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>> </span></tt><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'><br><tt>> XEP currently groups Chinese, Japanese, and Korean together in it's </tt><br><tt>> line-breaking rules. Our translation team is telling us the Korean </tt><br><tt>> should be treated differently than Chinese and Japanese and that it </tt><br><tt>> is only valid to break at space characters.</tt></span><br><tt><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>> </span></tt><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'><br><tt>> I was wondering if anyone else out there has encountered this, and </tt><br><tt>> how you have handled it using XEP.</tt></span><br><tt><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>> </span></tt><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'><br><tt>> Thanks</tt></span><br><tt><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>> -- </span></tt><br><tt><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>> __________________________________________________________________________________</span></tt><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'><br><tt>> Daniel Boughton | Technical Analyst | RR Donnelley</tt><br><tt>> 655 Brighton Beach Rd | Menasha, WI 54952 </tt><br><tt>> Office: <a href="tel:920.751.7603" target="_blank">920.751.7603</a> | Cell: <a href="tel:920.450.3581" target="_blank">920.450.3581</a> | Fax: <a href="tel:920..751.7686" target="_blank">920..751.7686</a></tt><br><tt>> <a href="mailto:daniel..r.boughton@rrd.com" target="_blank">daniel..r.boughton@rrd.com</a></tt><br><tt>> <a href="http://www.rrdonnelley.com" target="_blank">http://www.rrdonnelley.com</a></tt></span><br><tt><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>> </span></tt>!DSPAM:87,53e916e310101584813245! <o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><br>_______________________________________________<br>(*) To unsubscribe, please visit <a href="http://lists.renderx.com/mailman/options/xep-support" target="_blank">http://lists.renderx.com/mailman/options/xep-support</a><br>(*) By using the Service, you expressly agree to these Terms of Service <a href="http://w" target="_blank">http://w</a><br><a href="http://ww.renderx.com/terms-of-service.html" target="_blank">ww.renderx.com/terms-of-service.html</a><o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><br><br clear=all><o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal>-- <o:p></o:p></p><div><p style='line-height:12.0pt'><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#333333;background:white'>__________________________________________________________________________________</span><span style='background:white'><br></span><strong><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#333333;background:white'>Daniel Boughton | </span></strong><strong><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#999999;background:white'>Technical Analyst</span></strong><strong><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#333333;background:white'> | </span></strong><strong><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#999999;background:white'>RR Donnelley</span></strong><span style='background:white'><br></span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:#888888;background:white'>655 Brighton Beach Rd | Menasha, WI 54952</span><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#333333;background:white'> <br></span><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:#333333;background:white'>Office</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:#888888;background:white'>: </span><span style='background:white'>920.751.7603</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:#888888;background:white'> | </span><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:#333333;background:white'>Cell</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:#888888;background:white'>: </span><span style='background:white'>920.450.3581</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:#888888;background:white'> | </span><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:#333333;background:white'>Fax</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:#888888;background:white'>: </span><span style='background:white'>920.751.7686</span><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#333333;background:white'><br><a href="http://inside.rrd.net/insiderrd/pages/google/rrd_google_signature.aspx" target="_blank"><span style='color:#000099'>daniel.r.boughton@rrd.com</span></a><br><a href="http://www.rrdonnelley.com/" target="_blank"><span style='color:#000099'>http://www.rrdonnelley.com</span></a></span><span style='background:white'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div></body></html>