[xep-support] Re: Line breaking at a hyphen mark

[Jirka Kosek]

Hi Kevin,

any update on this? In Czech typography this is common requirement as
well. I wasn't able to achieve desired results even by injecting various
special characters into the point, where break can occur on hyphenation
character.

Thanks in advance,

Jirka

On Thu, Aug 7, 2014, at 11:46, Pilecki Konstanty wrote:
> Hello Kevin,
> 
> There is a sample FO document attached here. The one is perfectly
> rendered by AH Formatter (see the PDF file). I would like to have the
> same result using XEP RenderX. Is it possible?
> Please pay attention, that  an additional hyphen occurs on a trailing
> line if and only if the line is broken at the place, where two words are
> joined with a hyphen mark. Such are the demands of the Polish
> orthography.
> 
> Regards,
> Konstanty
> 
> From: Xep-support [mailto:xep-support-bounces at renderx.com] On Behalf Of
> Kevin Brown
> Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2014 9:25 PM
> To: 'RenderX Community Support List'
> Subject: [xep-support] Re: Line breaking at a hyphen mark
> 
> Without a sample, it's hard to see what exactly you desire.
> Certainly there is no design in the engine to automatically insert the
> start hyphen on the trailing line, it can and does at the break on the
> end of the line, but not at the start of the following line.
> 
>   Hyphena-
> -tion
> 
> I drew in this fashion as typically the hyphens would be outside the
> bounds of the flow, not inside.
> 
> If you are inserting them manually, why not just insert a linefeed,
> followed an inline with negative padding if you wish it to be inside the
> left margin?
> So I do not understand I guess.
> 
> If you wish them "automatically" when hyphenation occurs, I am not sure
> there is even a solution even in modification of the intermediate format.
> One would need to search and find all places hyphenation was inserted and
> insert something on the next line ... which becomes difficult in
> understanding "next line" especially in tables or across pages.
> 
> Kevin Brown
> RenderX
> 
> 
> 
> 
> From: Xep-support [mailto:xep-support-bounces at renderx.com] On Behalf Of
> Pilecki Konstanty
> Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2014 4:40 AM
> To: xep-support at renderx.com<mailto:xep-support at renderx.com>
> Subject: [xep-support] Line breaking at a hyphen mark
> 
> Hello,
> 
> My problem concerns a hyphenation. Let us have a piece of text with a
> hyphen, for example Sklodowska-Curie. When the text has been broken by a
> RenderX after the hyphen, I would like to achieve an additional hyphen
> mark at the beginning of the new line, as follow: Sklodowska-/-Curie (but
> not: Sklodowska-/Curie).
> 
> I have tried to resolve the problem adding, sequentially, a soft-hyphen
> (&#x00AD;) and a zero-width space (&#x200B;) characters before the hyphen
> mark and a joiner character (&#x2060;) after it. The result is quite good
> but, unfortunately, the joiner character is unnecessarily visible in the
> text rendered to PDF (as a rectangle mark). Is there any better way to
> manage this problem?
> 
> I would be grateful for any advice.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Konstanty
> 
> 
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