[xep-support] Another Arabic problem (diacritics)

Krister Wicksell krister.wicksell at zert.se
Wed Jun 18 07:28:23 PDT 2008


Hi Peter,

I do not know Arabic but my translator says the words are splitted and I think 
he mean the little diacritic waw is supposed to be above the Yeh and not as a 
separate char.

I have asked my translator for a picture of the correct rendering and will 
post that to this list as soon as I get it.

I have also tried different fonts and also in Windows since i use Linux. But 
all my tests give the same result, a splitted word.

I have found another old post talking about diacritics:
http://services.renderx.com/lists/xep-support/1812.html
In this post it is suggested to use special characters. For example for 
alef+hamza one should use &#x623. But I can not find any special character 
for this combination.

Best Regards
Krister Wicksell

Zert AB
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On Monday 16 June 2008 17:00:41 Peter von Kaehne wrote:
> Hi Krister,
>
> Reading the private flame EMR had sent me, I thought you had your
> solution dry and sorted.
>
> I do not speak Arabic (I speak Farsi) , so I am not sure what the exact
> desired outcome should look like.
>
> Is the Yeh in teh framed word meant to be separate as in the OpenOffice
> document or is it meant to be joined as attempted but not succeeded in XEP?
>
> Further the little diacritic waw is presumably supposed to be above the
> Yeh - and not as in the OOo example smashed into the diacritic double
> point of the Qaf?
>
> Peter
>
> Krister Wicksell wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > I have still no solution to my problem so if anyone has a solution please
> > post it to the list.
> >
> > Best Regards
> > Krister Wicksell
> >
> > Zert AB
> > Hamngatan 7
> > S-921 31 Lycksele
> > Sweden
> > Tel. +46 (0)950 132 30
> > Mobile +46 (0)70 380 86 84
> > Fax. +46 (0)950 262 30
> > http://www.zert.se/
> >
> > On Friday 13 June 2008 15:22:05 Peter von Kaehne wrote:
> >> EMR,
> >>
> >> I struggle to understand your outrage.
> >>
> >> I commented on the documented output of both programmes and said they
> >> are both wrong. Which they are - irrespective of whether this is a
> >> programme or an input fault. Both examples look a mess. That is a
> >> factual and neutral statement. There is no need to flame or shoot off
> >> private outraged emails.
> >>
> >> If the solution lies in different input - as it seemd to be with the
> >> percentage sign - then it would be extremely useful to have this exposed
> >> and explained on the mailing list rather than in - what has happened
> >> apparently - in private emails.
> >>
> >> I find XEP wonderful but also totally daunting and I had my own share of
> >> problems along similar lines - glyph shaping, number ordering etc. I am
> >> learning from the mailing list even if I do not write a lot. Glyph
> >> shaping though is an interest of mine.
> >>
> >> Peter
> >>
> >> EM Rosie wrote:
> >>> Peter -
> >>>
> >>> XEP didn’t produce a mess.
> >>>
> >>> Ask Krister how she corrected her XML data and you will see that XEP
> >>> correctly performed what asked to do.
> >>>
> >>> I'm surprised you would acuse a product when it seems you know anything
> >>> about the subject.
> >>>
> >>> EMR
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> -----Original Message-----
> >>> From: owner-xep-support at renderx.com
> >>> [mailto:owner-xep-support at renderx.com] On Behalf Of Peter von Kaehne
> >>> Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2008 12:00 PM
> >>> To: xep-support at renderx.com; krister.wicksell at zert.se
> >>> Subject: Re: [xep-support] Another Arabic problem (diacritics)
> >>>
> >>> Krister Wicksell wrote:
> >>>> Hi,
> >>>>
> >>>> When trying to create Arabic PDF:s I have found another problem.
> >>>> Almost
> >>>
> >>> all
> >>>
> >>>> Arabic words having diacritics like "ً", "ُ ", etc. look splitted. See
> >>>
> >>> attached
> >>>
> >>>> example.
> >>>
> >>> actually neither of two examples look right. Open Office has not done
> >>> any glyphshaping and XEP produced a mess too.
> >>>
> >>> Peter
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